11-Year-Old Boy (allegedly) Kills – Should We Go Back To Whipping?
Written by: Tom Sawyer
A fifth-grader from Pennsylvania allegedly killed his father’s pregnant girlfriend recently. The murder weapon was believed to be a shotgun designed for children. I actually didn’t know they made youth shotguns, but I guess hunting is big enough in some parts of the country to drive the need for this.
Sad to say, incidents like this are becoming so common that we are numb to the enormity of where our society is and the direction it is going.
Ironically, the boy’s last name is Brown and there is another young man with the same last name who recently made news for laying his hands on a young woman – I’m talking about R&B singer Chris Brown.
Who is to say discipline would have made a difference in either one of these situations, but is discipline or lack of discipline part of the problem? There are many people who take discipline, namely spanking, too far, but does that necessarily make it a bad thing? Let’s look at what the Bible has to say:
- He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently).
- Chasen thy son while there is hope, and let no thy soul spare for his crying.
- Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it from him.
- Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
- Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
- The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
I’m fully aware that many don’t feel like they should become physical with their children. However, after dealing with many young adults on a daily basis, I can say for certain that these kids are willing to do whatever they please. They have no fear and are willing to do anything legal or illegal as long as it jives with what they want at the time.
I’m of the opinion that we partially owe this to educators who replaced the village concept of raising a child with a degree program. By the way, some of the “experts” probably don’t have children meaning their recommendations and methods are based purely on theory and case studies.
Do you think we should go back to the old way of parenting, with a watchful eye on abusers, or keep on doing what we are doing? It seems as though we are moving towards a transition where some parents were abusive and barbaric to a day and age where the children are barbaric. The answer has to be somewhere in the middle.
Tags: 11-year-old murders dad's pregnant girlfriend, Bible verses concerning whipping, Direction society is going, Parental spanking/discipline
February 24th, 2009 at 5:58 am
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February 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I think there is a difference between a spanking (hand only – no paddles or kitchen utensils) for punishment and abuse. I certainly never felt abused when I got a spanking as a child, and I learned my lesson whenever it happened. The fear parents have of crossing the line into what someone else may deem as abuse may have resulted in far too little punishment for kids, which has led to seeing things like a child slapping her mom in the grocery store.
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February 25th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Kids get away with far too much nowadays. We, as parents, have to draw the line. As Kikolani stated, there is a fear that a lot of parents nowadays have, that if they discipline their child, others may see it as abuse and call Child Protective Services on them. In some cases, children call Child Protective Services on their parents! Back in the day, parents were giving the phone to the kids to call the cops or CPS and would whip them in front of them just because!
I agree that kids need whippings- as long as it doesn’t become abuse. There is definitely a difference.
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February 25th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
My question is how are these kids getting their hands on guns? We keep our guns and ammo in different places and now that our grandkids are older we’ve started locking them up altogether. They make youth guns for kids to go hunting with their parents but I actually bought one for myself because I’m small and have trouble handling a regular size gun. If people would just take the time to lock up their guns around kids who are old enough to use them we wouldn’t have these terrible tragedies. I agree that kids are spoiled today and I think there is a terrible lack of discipline. I had a spanking spoon that I used to discipline my kids and they respected that. I never spanked while I was angry and always explained to them why they were being punished. Sometimes I even had them tell me what they thought their punishment should be. The interesting thing is that sometimes they would suggest a more severe punishment than the one I had in mind. This was really fun when they became teens because I never knew what they would come up with. When they were little I always hugged them after I punished them and told them I loved them. As they got older they didn’t always want a hug after I put them on restriction (or whatever) but sometimes they did. Kids are growing up without boundaries and that is a terrible injustice.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I am a fairly new parent, but I can definitely say this. My child would never kill. I whip my son and he is 2.5 and needs them. His mother tries the timeout and stand in the corner thing, but that has stopped and everyone now whips him. I have seen and heard the things kids do these days and just think how there would be a zero percent chance my mother and a -10 percent chance my grandmother would have let me get away with half the things I hear kids get a “you better stop it” for. Kids will be kids.. but my son is going to be a kid thats a kid… that gets whipped!
March 21st, 2009 at 10:09 am
chris brown is the best all u f0ckin haters r mad because he is famous and r not
September 9th, 2009 at 5:20 am
What are u insane?? Chris Brown is the way he is because he saw his mom beaten for yrs by his stepdad who I’m sure also abused him as well.The 11 yr old clearly had some major issues with the step mom.He killed only her and that speaks volumes on how he felt about her.In that situation the dad I bet ignored all the signs his son was putting out because it would have meant he would have had to deal with real issues.What would spanking this 11 yr old have done??No child and I mean up to age 18 should ever have any fire arm in there possession.Trust me spanking is for the parents not the children.
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